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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

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    1.Bruce Carter OLB NC- A do everything 3 down LB that can give a defense a ton of flexibility. His all around skill set to blitz and cover WR's in the slot can give a DC just way to many options to ignore.His outstanding ability on special teams is another huge plus as well.




    2. Brandon Burton CB Utah 6-0 185 - The Giants need a corner that much is obvious.. Brandon Burton is a little different then what we have seen the last few years from the Giants in the type of corner they covet. In Perry Fewells defense however a different type of corner may be a better idea. Burton excels in zone has a nice beck pedal and good recovery speed. I like Burton a lot in Fewells defense if he isnt the DC I would probably go with another corner in this spot. He is also a junior so he may opt to return especially if the CBA is not sorted out.




    3. Marvin Austin DT NC- Maybe Im crazy but I think he is going to fall do tocharacter concerns and a motor that doesnt always run. I think he is worththe risk here




    4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- The best center in this class in my opinion




    6. Eric Hagg S Nebraska / Jermaile Hines S Ohio State- I wanted to go safety higher but I couldnt find one with the skill set besides Mark Barron. Hagg plays as the Nickel defender in Nebraskas defense where they use him at linebacker,Safety, and CB. Another guy who I think is only an option if Fewell is the DC. Hines was used in a Deon Grant type role last year at Ohio State Hines comes with great size "6-2 210"that fits the tweener Linebacker/safety role to perfection.




    7. Barron Batch RB Texas Tech- Batch could go higher then this and probably will but he fits a need in my opinion. Batch reminds me some of Mike Goodson of the Panthers. Batch to me could make a very good 3rd down back in the NFL something I think the Giants surely lack. He also can help out on special teams and has 4.4 speed







    6-7 Schylur Oordt Northern Iowa- This tight end class is awful but Oordt has gret physical skills to me that cant be ignored a guy to watch in the Senior Bowl.

    [/quote] not bad.. I don't think theres a chance that Austin falls that far.. I think u look at Carlos Dunlap and guys like Andre Smith and Anthony Davis and Dez Bryant and what not, and they all didn't drop to RD 3... I realize none of those guys missed a Whole Season, but your still talking about a Projected Talent for his respective positon that matches the names listed above and there respective positons.. I honestly think someone at the end of RD 1 could try and steal a Top 15 talent in Austin, hoping they are getting just that and figuring its worth it... But if they don't, i almost gurantee someone does within the next half to slightly above half rd...

    As u said, i don't think Batch goes in RD 7, thinking more on 4 through extremely early 6th... But i would enjoy the pick!

    I really have fallen for kirkpatrick after hering u speak about him and i also like burton..

    Overall, pretty solid, but i think its because u have a guy going mid to end rd 3 that won't be there... Just my opinion..
    [/quote]Your right about Austin Im just having a hard time finding somebody to go in that spot. If Coefield is brought back DT isnt a need though. I wanted to put in the 3rd round a safety,pass rush specialist DE, a 3rd down back or a TE but I couldnt really fit any of those spots there. I thought about possibly Noel Devine but I think he will go in the 2nd round. The TE class is god awful so theres no go there. Mark Barron? I like him and would fill the tweener LB/safety role wellbut he is a junior and I think he will return or go in the 2nd round. A pass rush specialist at DE if we lose Kiwi . I thought Jeremy Beal would of been option here in September but he has been great so I doubt he will be available. Maybe an OT like Carimi or Love

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    Kind of off topic, but it's got to do w/ a draft prospect so here it is. Christian Ponders girlfriend is fine as f**.


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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    There are a couple underclassmen safetys who may be 3rd rounders.

    Kenny Tate and Robert Sands

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    [quote user="slipknottin"]There are a couple underclassmen safetys who may be 3rd rounders.

    Kenny Tate and Robert Sands[/quote]Watched Kenny Tate last week vs FSU. Kid has got potential- I just don't see Sands as a 3rd rounder, I'm much higher on Tate. I see Sands as maybe a 5th or 6th rounder. Just my opinion-

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    [quote user="heavyhitter"]Kind of off topic, but it's got to do w/ a draft prospect so here it is. Christian Ponders girlfriend is fine as f**.

    [/quote]Another pic of Ponders chick. She goes to school at Nova.



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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

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    1.Bruce Carter OLB NC- A do everything 3 down LB that can give a defense a ton of flexibility. His all around skill set to blitz and cover WR's in the slot can give a DC just way to many options to ignore.His outstanding ability on special teams is another huge plus as well.




    2. Brandon Burton CB Utah 6-0 185 - The Giants need a corner that much is obvious.. Brandon Burton is a little different then what we have seen the last few years from the Giants in the type of corner they covet. In Perry Fewells defense however a different type of corner may be a better idea. Burton excels in zone has a nice beck pedal and good recovery speed. I like Burton a lot in Fewells defense if he isnt the DC I would probably go with another corner in this spot. He is also a junior so he may opt to return especially if the CBA is not sorted out.




    3. Marvin Austin DT NC- Maybe Im crazy but I think he is going to fall do tocharacter concerns and a motor that doesnt always run. I think he is worththe risk here




    4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- The best center in this class in my opinion




    6. Eric Hagg S Nebraska / Jermaile Hines S Ohio State- I wanted to go safety higher but I couldnt find one with the skill set besides Mark Barron. Hagg plays as the Nickel defender in Nebraskas defense where they use him at linebacker,Safety, and CB. Another guy who I think is only an option if Fewell is the DC. Hines was used in a Deon Grant type role last year at Ohio State Hines comes with great size "6-2 210"that fits the tweener Linebacker/safety role to perfection.




    7. Barron Batch RB Texas Tech- Batch could go higher then this and probably will but he fits a need in my opinion. Batch reminds me some of Mike Goodson of the Panthers. Batch to me could make a very good 3rd down back in the NFL something I think the Giants surely lack. He also can help out on special teams and has 4.4 speed







    6-7 Schylur Oordt Northern Iowa- This tight end class is awful but Oordt has gret physical skills to me that cant be ignored a guy to watch in the Senior Bowl.

    [/quote] not bad.. I don't think theres a chance that Austin falls that far.. I think u look at Carlos Dunlap and guys like Andre Smith and Anthony Davis and Dez Bryant and what not, and they all didn't drop to RD 3... I realize none of those guys missed a Whole Season, but your still talking about a Projected Talent for his respective positon that matches the names listed above and there respective positons.. I honestly think someone at the end of RD 1 could try and steal a Top 15 talent in Austin, hoping they are getting just that and figuring its worth it... But if they don't, i almost gurantee someone does within the next half to slightly above half rd...

    As u said, i don't think Batch goes in RD 7, thinking more on 4 through extremely early 6th... But i would enjoy the pick!

    I really have fallen for kirkpatrick after hering u speak about him and i also like burton..

    Overall, pretty solid, but i think its because u have a guy going mid to end rd 3 that won't be there... Just my opinion..
    [/quote]Your right about Austin Im just having a hard time finding somebody to go in that spot. If Coefield is brought back DT isnt a need though. I wanted to put in the 3rd round a safety,pass rush specialist DE, a 3rd down back or a TE but I couldnt really fit any of those spots there. I thought about possibly Noel Devine but I think he will go in the 2nd round. The TE class is god awful so theres no go there. Mark Barron? I like him and would fill the tweener LB/safety role wellbut he is a junior and I think he will return or go in the 2nd round. A pass rush specialist at DE if we lose Kiwi . I thought Jeremy Beal would of been option here in September but he has been great so I doubt he will be available. Maybe an OT like Carimi or Love[/quote] A SS that i think would be sensational to draft toward the end of rd 3, because he may not make it to the end of RD 4, is Joe Lefeged of Rutgers.. I've watched a ton of Rutgers this yr, and the guy is a thumper whos got solid instincts and can return kicks not to mention be a beast on special teams, blocking punts and what not, as he did twice in one game against FIU... Those are the type of players we need, verstatile.. And those are the players we like as well.. I just don't know if Joe's quite a 3rd rd prospect, but i think he'd be a steal, because i think hes got a pro career, and a good one in front of him

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]First wk in awhile i'm dropping the giants in my projected WEEKLY mock that i try and adjust to the most recent WK... I didn't do one last wk, or would of dropped em a pick or 2 then, as well.. I'm saying(guess) about pick 22 right now....


    1. Akeem Ayers LB UCLA- Love em and his versatility.. Always good to have a SLB that isn't just a guy that can get to the QB but also hold his own in coverege and has a knack for making plays and has shown good hands and athletic ability..

    2. Jason Pinkston OT PITT- This guy can play. Hes a 3yr starter on the left side and pitts run game has always been huge with him as the starting LT.. Good Footwork and Mobility and a talented player.. Not to impressed overall with Beatty Yet, and i'm not sold on Andrews staying healthy and of course we have other injury concerns plus age on our Oline..

    3. Johnny Patrick CB LOUISVILLE- A very expierenced CB, whos not the attention getter of a Janoris Jenkins or Peterson, but gets it done, and does a heck of a job as the key cog of his defense.. Hes got decent size and speed and i think his stock is finally rising as it should of long ago, and don't be surprised if hes off the board by the time we pick here, but for now, hes my 3rd rd pick for us... We need another CB..

    4. Weslye Saunders TE S.Carolina- Before off field issues, Saunders was touted as a Top TE in the country going forward and is a dual threat as a big strong blocker with solid hands.. It would of been fun to see his progress this yr, and the giants possibly needing a big blocking TE with at leaest Solid hands, take a gamble on Saunders here in RD 4, trying to get a steal, and for the TE positon and the giants needing a Starter for boss, its well worth the risk...

    6. Kevin Kowalski C TOLEDO- This is a loaded C Class, and Kowalski has gained recogniton over the wk's and is a fundamentally sound, good sized C that could very easily sneak into the 5th rd, but with such a deep class of C's, i chose to wait untill RD 6, as C is a wierd positon and its odd to see so many taken in the first 5 rd's, so i'm banking someone good slips, and in my scenario, its kowalski.. Also watch small school standout brandon fusco's name, as it continues to gain recogniton(i know nothing about him though)....

    7. Davonte Shannon SS BUFFALO- I'm almost banking on this kid getting drafted.. He's a tackling machine that also makes plays and has great size and good speed.. I've actually had alot of expierence with Buffalo on TV over the past couple yrs when they were good and got to see Shannon a few times before this season, and its no surprise hes putting together a Amazing yr in the MAC.. I think hes the type of player that makes a team and ends up being a stellar late rd pick for someone... He also would be good groomed to take over D.Grant's spot..
    [/quote]All good players. I like Ayers as a prospect and if Fewell isnt the DC here I would like him more for the Giants. I think he would of been a very good fit for Spags defense actually. I think with Fewell thougha guy with a little more speed and coverage ability is a better fit. Not that Ayers isnt good with both those things but guys like Carter and Lewis to me seem like a better fit, just my opinion good player though. OT to me is a weird spot I could see the Giants taking one high or not at all. I see 4 guys that havegood ability to play tackle on this team. A lot just depends on Andrews if he locks down the LT spot. If he does U then have Diehl and Beatty as back ups for both tackle spots which is pretty dam good.. Mckenzie play has earned him another year which will give Will Beatty one more year to prove himself as a viable canidate. If he can not, Well the Giants draft one high in 2012. Now if Andrews gets hurt or something happens, Well then U probably need to draft one. As it currently stands Im conflicted on the spot. The cornerback ,Ill take your word on havent watched much Big East football this year. That conference is in the toilet. I dont think they should have an at large BCS bid. Weslye Saunders was a guy I considered as well in my mock. I just really dont like this TE class, Its awful. All the guys are either really undersized, soft, orboth. The lack of them leads me to believe they will be over drafted. Saunders got kicked off his team but has the size and talent to be a good player. In this draft he is about as good as they come . The guy I like Schuylar Oordt from Northern Iowa has a very good size speed combo 6-6 246 pounds 4.65 40. He also beats defenses for big plays. He only has 24 catches but for 400 yards a healthy 16.67 YPC. 6 of his 24 catches have been for over 38 yards. With a team that hasnt thrown the ball to the TE much this year a guy that could just beat the defense down the seam for 35 yards once a game could be a good thing. In this awful class a guy with his athleticism and penchant for big plays cant be ignored. I like Kirkpatrick and I really think he has a good chance of being drafted by the Giants but Kowalski isnt a bad player. Has good size with a frame to bulk up and help out at guard if needed. I would not mind getting him if we dont get Kirkpatrick. Davonte Shannon has insane tackle numbers and seems like a good fit as a SS.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    Ayers to me is best at 3-4 strong side backer.

    Imagine him across from Clay Matthews. Perfect fit there. As a 4-3 backer, not as good a fit.

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    [quote user="slipknottin"]Ayers to me is best at 3-4 strong side backer.

    Imagine him across from Clay Matthews. Perfect fit there. As a 4-3 backer, not as good a fit.[/quote]that is a scary image.

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