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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is...* I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying
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    Yea, i still dont have a good idea of where he goes though. I think hes a first rounder, but is he a top 15 guy? Or does he go one of the last picks of the first?

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    Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. Way too undersized to be any factor against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="Neverend"]Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. <font size="4">Way too undersized to be any factor</font> against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team[/quote]6-3 240+ is undersized??

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is... I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying
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    Yea, i still dont have a good idea of where he goes though. I think hes a first rounder, but is he a top 15 guy? Or does he go one of the last picks of the first?[/quote] thats a good question slip, and as usual, its gonna be extremely fun to see where the stones may drop...

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    Anyone got thoughts on Temples Muhammad Wilkerson. It sux that Temple missed a bowl game even though they went 8-4 I would of liked to see him one more time. The only game I saw him play was against Penn State and he looked pretty good.They lined him up a lot as a5 tech even 7.He has upside as a pass rusher, is scheme versatile as a 3 or 5 tech. I still think this teamneeds a beast 3 tech. Cantyhas been average and hasno guaranteed money left on his deal. With Coefield a free agent could the Giants cut Canty to keep Barry and go after another 3 tech in the draft. Probably not but I still think the spot needs to be upgraded. Anyone catch any games of him, more then me at least</P>

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

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    Anyone got thoughts on Temples Muhammad Wilkerson. It sux that Temple missed a bowl game even though they went 8-4 I would of liked to see him one more time. The only game I saw him play was against Penn State and he looked pretty good.They lined him up a lot as a5 tech even 7.He has upside as a pass rusher, is scheme versatile as a 3 or 5 tech. I still think this teamneeds a beast 3 tech. Cantyhas been average and hasno guaranteed money left on his deal. With Coefield a free agent could the Giants cut Canty to keep Barry and go after another 3 tech in the draft. Probably not but I still think the spot needs to be upgraded. Anyone catch any games of him, more then me at least</p>[/quote] i don't know much about him Redeye, buts hes got intriguing Qualitys... I am amped to see Bernard Pierce next yr.. I hope hes fully healthy and gets a full yr of healthy ball in.... That dude is sensational when healthy.. Seriously, he mite be the best back in the country when fully healthy, i love em

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

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    Anyone got thoughts on Temples Muhammad Wilkerson.[/quote]

    Late 1st, early 2nd. Imo

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    [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="Neverend"]Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. <FONT size=4>Way too undersized to be any factor</FONT> against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team[/quote]6-3 240+ is undersized??
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    The guy is not bigger than 240 pounds... He looks barely 230 and really lacks upper body strength, might struggle shedding blocks in the NFL probably</P>

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    Shrine Bowl practices started up today. Not sure if anyone belongs to any of the sites that have running blogs but if they do if they could paraphrase it would be cool. </P>


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    Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</P>


    Dontay Moch weighed in at 229 and is listed as an OLB for the West</P>


    Here is the height weight chart</P>


    EAST:


    WEST:
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    Some stuff i found around the net http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=4232</P>


    Marvin Austin DL North Carolina</P>


    Tues:Started slow but really picked it up. Showed a lot of power, quickness and explosion.</P>


    Rarely got held up off the line.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Ryan Bartholomew OL Syracuse</P>


    Tues:</P>


    Moves well yet got smoked on a number of plays and on the ground too much.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Bryant Browning OL Ohio State</P>


    Tues:Awful technician; narrow base and does not sink his butt which adversely effected his run</P>


    blocking ability. Moved well and solid in pass protection.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Mario Butler DB Georgia Tech</P>


    Tues:Looked good in drills. Fluid and smooth. Also made some nice plays facing the action.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Wes Byrum K Auburn</P>


    Tues:Kick-offs were not good.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Delone Carter RB Syracuse</P>


    Tues: Some shiftiness and a nice burst. Willingly took it up the middle.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Graig Cooper RB Miami</P>


    Tues:Looked good. Quick footed and very shifty. Nice creativity on the inside. Not wearing a</P>


    knee brace.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Akem Dent LB Georgia</P>


    Tues:</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Patrick Devlin QB Delaware</P>


    Tues: Really struggled to throw the ball. Passes float and wobble. Did not look good.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Ricky Dobbs QB Navy</P>


    Tues:</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Charles Gantt TE Michigan State</P>


    Tues:Really looked dominant as a blocker. Jumped offside part of the day but still looked</P>


    good.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Eric Gordon DB Michigan State</P>


    Tues:Listed at strong safety.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Christian Hairston OL Clemson</P>


    Tues:Average day. Big guy but not as dominant as you’d think.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Jermale Hines DB Ohio State</P>


    Tues:Looked best moving up the field. Slow and mechanical in his peddle.</P>


    Wed: </P>


    —</P>


    Douglas Hogue LB Syracuse</P>


    Tues:</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Randall Hunt OL Illinois</P>


    Tues:Violent blocker that controls opponents once he gets his hands on them. Then again got beaten bad on a number of occasions when opponents got the first step on him and he had to adjust. Slightly stiff.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Lestar Jean WR Florida Atlantic</P>


    Tues:</P>


    Tall target. Gets off the line quickly. Lost out battling Justin Rogers of Richmond.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Brian Lainhart DB Kent State</P>


    Tues:Just looks slow and as though he’s forcing the issue in drills. Nothing to make us not believe he’s just a straight line safety.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Scott Lutrus LB Connecticut</P>


    Tues:Showed a lot of athleticism on the field.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —
    Gregory Lyoyd II LB Connecticut</P>


    Tues:Mentally gets it but lacks quickness and agility.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Terrell McClain DL USF</P>


    Tues: Really had a solid day. Explosive off the snap and great all around quickness. Not the strongest yet held his own.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Josh McNary LB Army</P>


    Tues:Looked athletic and forceful. Made a number of nice plays.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Bruce Miller DL UCF</P>


    Tues: Solely played defensive end. Fast off the edge and showed some quickness yet cannot get off blocks. Really goes hard.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Jonathan Nelson DB Oklahoma</P>


    Tues:Made a nice pick then came back and got beaten badly trying to defend the run (DeLone</P>


    Carter?).</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Olong Ogbu DL Penn State</P>


    Tues:Fires off the snap with a tremendous first step which gave him an advantage over the poor o-linemen of the East. Fought hard and was not dominated.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Martin Parker DL Richmond</P>


    Tues:Impressive. Looked quick, athletic and better than average strength. Won out a number of times in one-on-one drills and more than held his own.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Jah Reid OL UCF</P>


    Tues:Big, monstrous right tackle that flashed. Struggled to adjust but showed some skills.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Justin Rogers DB Richmond</P>


    Tues:Looked good all the way around. Quick feet, nice burst and fast. Made a nice break-up against Cecil Shorts in scrimmage.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Brian Rolle LB Ohio State</P>


    Tues:Made a few nice plays but constantly swallowed by blocks.</P>


    Wed: </P>


    —</P>


    Evan Royster RB Penn State</P>


    Tues: Just a one cut runner yet a very good one-cut runner.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Anthony Sherman FB Connecticut</P>


    Tues:Displayed deceptive speed and on a number of occasions was able to turn the corner</P>


    carrying the ball. Blue collar blocker.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Cecil Shorts WR Mt. Union</P>


    Tues: Ran decent routes. Made a nice grab on an out with a defender draped on him. Still</P>


    leaves his feet unnecessarily at times.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    David Sims DB Iowa State</P>


    Tues:</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Greg Smith TE Texas</P>


    Tues: Slightly disappointed. Looked off balance and struggled finishing blocks.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Mike Smith OL Nebraska</P>


    Tues:Played left tackle and wasn’t awful Controlled opponents once he gets his hands on</P>


    them.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech</P>


    Tues:Threw the ball reasonably well but he’s short. Strains to see over the offensive linemen.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Josh Thomas DB Buffalo</P>


    Tues: Slightly disappointing in that we thought his foot quickness and backpedal would be better.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Terrence Toliver WR LSU</P>


    Tues:Did a good job blocking.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Justin Trattou DL Florida</P>


    Tues:Gave more than we thought; better athlete, pass rusher, etc.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Terrence Turner WR Indiana</P>


    Tues:</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Demarcus Van Dyke DB Miami</P>


    Tues: Looked great mechanically in drills. Flamingo thin legs.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Kyle Adams TE Purdue</P>


    Tues:Worked his blocks. Technically sound.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Beau Warren OL Virginia Tech</P>


    Tues:Quick and got leverage on opponents yet also manhandled by Austin and McClain at times.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    William Rackley OL Lehigh</P>


    Tues:Played right tackle and struggled. Looked very passive and did too much catching defenders. Better off at guard.</P>


    Wed:</P>


    —</P>


    Kenny Rowe DL Oregon</P>


    Tues:Flashed playmaking skill. Tall, angular </P>

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