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    Re: The Gulf Oil Disaster

    Big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of Rip Van Winkle proportions!
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    Re: The Gulf Oil Disaster

    [quote user="jomo"]Big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of Rip Van Winkle proportions![/quote]

    More exists behind sports man. Read up.

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    Re: The Gulf Oil Disaster

    [quote user="greenca190"][quote user="jomo"]Big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of Rip Van Winkle proportions![/quote]

    More exists behind sports man. Read up.[/quote]We all know there is more going on than sports and that is why we come here.......to get away from all the day to day hassles and miseries of life. That is what being a fan of an athletic team is all about getting away from life's day to day grind. Very Truly Yours, Rip Van W
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    [quote user="greenca190"][quote user="redbeardxxv"]sorry to point it out to you, but it was the Bush administration that removed the requirement for a bypass valve that would have shut the oil down in 24 hours. Oil companies complained that cost of the valve alone was 1/2 a million dollars and that it was an unnecessary expenditure. The issue was brought to the Bush administration, more specifically **** Chaney, and it was declared superfluous. The rig itself, was a Haliburton project. So, yes, this would indeed be Bush's fault, or at least his administration's, and they should all be crucified by the general public for the worst ecological disaster to date, and it's only getting bigger. I live on the Gulf Coast-it's beautiful. Well, it is today, not too sure what it might look like tomorrow or next week. Sunday I'll be going to help clean up the casualties of this oil spill-wildlife and birds and such that are being moved to the Southern coast because their natural home has been destroyed-want me to take some pictures of the victims for you? Might help bring the reality home.

    here's some links from a quick google search to back up my claims:
    Chaney's removal of the "acoustical valve" :

    http://beforeitsnews.com/news/38/556...Disasters.html

    Haliburton's involvement:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gree...onnection.html[/quote]

    I can't help but disagree with you. Obama knew what the issues were down there, he shouldn't have authorized drilling. Simple as that. Make it safe before you go down there to drill. Come up with some blueprint beforehand in case some terrible disaster happens.

    However, I did just find this article on the NYT front page - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/15/us...5obama.html?hp

    This should have been said a year ago when he was inaugurated. Pretty much the platform he ran on.[/quote]

    No argument that Obama shares the blame for allowing this to happen, but you cannot exonerate the previous administration for their shortcomings and cavalier attitude toward our environment. I will hold my applause for Obama's strong words in your article until I see some action, but I suppose it's a start.

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    [quote user="redbeardxxv"][quote user="greenca190"][quote user="redbeardxxv"]sorry to point it out to you, but it was the Bush administration that removed the requirement for a bypass valve that would have shut the oil down in 24 hours. Oil companies complained that cost of the valve alone was 1/2 a million dollars and that it was an unnecessary expenditure. The issue was brought to the Bush administration, more specifically **** Chaney, and it was declared superfluous. The rig itself, was a Haliburton project. So, yes, this would indeed be Bush's fault, or at least his administration's, and they should all be crucified by the general public for the worst ecological disaster to date, and it's only getting bigger. I live on the Gulf Coast-it's beautiful. Well, it is today, not too sure what it might look like tomorrow or next week. Sunday I'll be going to help clean up the casualties of this oil spill-wildlife and birds and such that are being moved to the Southern coast because their natural home has been destroyed-want me to take some pictures of the victims for you? Might help bring the reality home.

    here's some links from a quick google search to back up my claims:
    Chaney's removal of the "acoustical valve" :

    http://beforeitsnews.com/news/38/556...Disasters.html

    Haliburton's involvement:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gree...onnection.html[/quote]

    I can't help but disagree with you. Obama knew what the issues were down there, he shouldn't have authorized drilling. Simple as that. Make it safe before you go down there to drill. Come up with some blueprint beforehand in case some terrible disaster happens.

    However, I did just find this article on the NYT front page - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/15/us...5obama.html?hp

    This should have been said a year ago when he was inaugurated. Pretty much the platform he ran on.[/quote]

    No argument that Obama shares the blame for allowing this to happen, but you cannot exonerate the previous administration for their shortcomings and cavalier attitude toward our environment.[/quote]If Bill Sheridan had shown better leadership on environmental issues and if JR hadn't gone cheap in hiring him in the first place, our defence against environmental offenses wouldn't be in the miserable shape they are today. There that's my best shot at connecting these otherwise unrelated topics.
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    [quote user="jomo"][quote user="greenca190"][quote user="jomo"]Big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of Rip Van Winkle proportions![/quote]

    More exists behind sports man. Read up.[/quote]We all know there is more going on than sports and that is why we come here.......to get away from all the day to day hassles and miseries of life. That is what being a fan of an athletic team is all about getting away from life's day to day grind. Very Truly Yours, Rip Van W[/quote]

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    Re: The Gulf Oil Disaster

    [quote user="greenca190"][quote user="jomo"][quote user="greenca190"][quote user="jomo"]Big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of Rip Van Winkle proportions![/quote]

    More exists behind sports man. Read up.[/quote]We all know there is more going on than sports and that is why we come here.......to get away from all the day to day hassles and miseries of life. That is what being a fan of an athletic team is all about getting away from life's day to day grind. Very Truly Yours, Rip Van W[/quote]

    If you don't want to contribute then don't.[/quote]Tim Lewis and Bill Sheridan are responsible for weak environmental defenses which led directly to the blast which led to the spill which means that envirnmentally we are offensive. How is that?
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    [quote user="jomo"][quote user="greenca190"][quote user="jomo"][quote user="greenca190"][quote user="jomo"]Big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of Rip Van Winkle proportions![/quote]

    More exists behind sports man. Read up.[/quote]We all know there is more going on than sports and that is why we come here.......to get away from all the day to day hassles and miseries of life. That is what being a fan of an athletic team is all about getting away from life's day to day grind. Very Truly Yours, Rip Van W[/quote]

    If you don't want to contribute then don't.[/quote]Tim Lewis and Bill Sheridan are responsible for weak environmental defenses which led directly to the blast which led to the spill which means that envirnmentally we are offensive. How is that?[/quote]

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    [quote user="redbeardxxv"]sorry to point it out to you, but it was the Bush administration that removed the requirement for a bypass valve that would have shut the oil down in 24 hours. Oil companies complained that cost of the valve alone was 1/2 a million dollars and that it was an unnecessary expenditure. The issue was brought to the Bush administration, more specifically **** Chaney, and it was declared superfluous. The rig itself, was a Haliburton project. So, yes, this would indeed be Bush's fault, or at least his administration's, and they should all be crucified by the general public for the worst ecological disaster to date, and it's only getting bigger. I live on the Gulf Coast-it's beautiful. Well, it is today, not too sure what it might look like tomorrow or next week. Sunday I'll be going to help clean up the casualties of this oil spill-wildlife and birds and such that are being moved to the Southern coast because their natural home has been destroyed-want me to take some pictures of the victims for you? Might help bring the reality home. here's some links from a quick google search to back up my claims: Chaney's removal of the "acoustical valve" : http://beforeitsnews.com/news/38/556...Disasters.html Haliburton's involvement: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gree...onnection.html[/quote]</P>


    Without getting political or personal, a quick Google search shows me that your facts aren't quite accurate. The Bush Administration did not remove the requirement for a bypass valve nor did Cheney remove the "acoustical valve". First off, there's no such thing as a "accoustical valve". The term your looking for is "accoustic switch". However, there has never been a requirement in the U.S. to install accoustic switches. Therefore, Cheney and the rest of the Bush Admin. could not remove a requirement that never existed. Further, the rig was indeed equipped with a blowout preventer that was connected to a "dead-man switch" (i.e. a valve at the ocean floor that should have automatically closed when it stopped receiving signals from the rig). While an accoustic switch should be (and probably will be) requiredon all future rigs, it may not have worked anyway. If the problem is with the valve and not the dead-man switch, then a second switch wouldn't help anything.</P>


    By the way, that link is hardly a reliable news source. Here's a better one:</P>


    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...417936798.html</P>

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    Re: The Gulf Oil Disaster

    [quote user="greenca190"] I can't help but disagree with you. Obama knew what the issues were down there, he shouldn't have authorized drilling. Simple as that. [/quote]are you high?

    I'm petty sure dealing with 2 wars, the world economy at collapse, Haiti, Iran, and his his daily brief of Homeland and world threats...you expect him to go over the lists of oil rigs and know what ones are unsafe? Pretty sure he believed the Bush Amin had it under control

    lol unreal


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