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    ARTICLE : Giants overcome controversial calls BY Mike Pereir***

    [link]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-referee-reviews-green-bay-packers-new-york-giants-houston-texans-baltimore-ravens-011512[/link]

    To err is human . . . and replay is divine. At least it normally is.

    Good thing for the New York Giants, they didnít let a controversial call, the NFLís top-ranked quarterback or the highest-scoring team in the league derail them on their way to a 37-20 upset of the defending Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field on Sunday.

    The Packers came into the game averaging 35 points a game, and quarterback Aaron Rogers, who hadnít played in a game in three weeks, was the top-ranked QB ó and most likely MVP of the regular season. But the Giants' defense limited Rogers to only 264 yards on 26-of-46 passing and two touchdowns. He was sacked four times.

    One thing the Giants didnít do was let a questionable call in the first quarter ó one that changed the momentum of the game at the time ó stop them.

    Here was the situation:

    Green Bay had the ball, first-and-10 at the Giants 38-yard line with 1:45 left in the first quarter. Rodgers completed a six-yard pass to Greg Jennings, who was tackled by Deon Grant. Jennings fumbled the ball as he was going to the ground, and it was recovered by the Giantsí Kenny Phillips.

    On the field, the officials originally ruled it a fumble, then changed it to down by contact. The Giants then challenged the call, claiming that Jennings fumbled prior to being down by contact. But upon review, the call of down by contact was upheld.

    Instant replay is a technology-based system in which humans have the final say. In this particular case, there are many humans like myself who didnít agree with referee Bill Leavyís decision not to overturn the ruling that was made on the field.

    Iím a fan of staying with the call thatís originally made on the field, but in this case, I think there was clear video evidence that the ball was being pulled out of Jenningsí hands before his calf hit the ground. It almost makes me wonder whether they even got to look at the last replay I saw before making the final decision.

    The referee has 60 seconds to make a decision once he gets under the hood. Nevertheless, this all boils down to human judgment. In the end, itís Leavyís judgment that counts. Not everybody sees things the same way as this clearly shows. Five plays later, the Packers scored a touchdown to tie it at 10.

    There was another controversial call ó a call of roughing the quarterback against Osi Umenyiora ó that led to another Green Bay touchdown in the fourth quarter, but nothing was going to stop the Giants on this day. Not Rodgers, not the Packers' offense and certainly not any controversial calls.

    Letís take a look at some of the other interesting calls from Sunday:

    THE GAME: NY Giants at Green Bay

    THE SITUATION: Green Bay had the ball, third-and-8 on the Giants 44-yard line with 7:07 remaining in the second quarter. The score was 10-10.


    THE PLAY: Giants quarterback Eli Manning completed a 17-yard pass to Jake Ballard, who was tackled by Morgan Burnett. On the play, Manning was hit by the Packersí Desmond Bishop after he threw the ball. No penalty was called.

    MY TAKE: I think this was roughing the passer. The rule book categorizes the types of roughing the passer. It includes such things as hit to the head, hitting passerís knee or hitting a passer out of the play, etc. It also lists the one-step rule, which for simplicityís sake would be better described as the two-step rule. The rule states: "Once a pass has been released by a passer, a rushing defender may make direct contact with the passer only up through the rusherís first step after such release (prior to second step hitting the ground); thereafter, the rusher must be making an attempt to avoid contact and must not continue to drive through or otherwise forcibly contact the passer." Therefore, I think a foul should have been called, and I think Burnett can expect a letter from the league.
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    ARTICLE : Giants overcome controversial calls BY Mike Pereir***

    [link]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-referee-reviews-green-bay-packers-new-york-giants-houston-texans-baltimore-ravens-011512[/link]

    To err is human . . . and replay is divine. At least it normally is.

    Good thing for the New York Giants, they didnít let a controversial call, the NFLís top-ranked quarterback or the highest-scoring team in the league derail them on their way to a 37-20 upset of the defending Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field on Sunday.

    The Packers came into the game averaging 35 points a game, and quarterback Aaron Rogers, who hadnít played in a game in three weeks, was the top-ranked QB ó and most likely MVP of the regular season. But the Giants' defense limited Rogers to only 264 yards on 26-of-46 passing and two touchdowns. He was sacked four times.

    One thing the Giants didnít do was let a questionable call in the first quarter ó one that changed the momentum of the game at the time ó stop them.

    Here was the situation:

    Green Bay had the ball, first-and-10 at the Giants 38-yard line with 1:45 left in the first quarter. Rodgers completed a six-yard pass to Greg Jennings, who was tackled by Deon Grant. Jennings fumbled the ball as he was going to the ground, and it was recovered by the Giantsí Kenny Phillips.

    On the field, the officials originally ruled it a fumble, then changed it to down by contact. The Giants then challenged the call, claiming that Jennings fumbled prior to being down by contact. But upon review, the call of down by contact was upheld.

    Instant replay is a technology-based system in which humans have the final say. In this particular case, there are many humans like myself who didnít agree with referee Bill Leavyís decision not to overturn the ruling that was made on the field.

    Iím a fan of staying with the call thatís originally made on the field, but in this case, I think there was clear video evidence that the ball was being pulled out of Jenningsí hands before his calf hit the ground. It almost makes me wonder whether they even got to look at the last replay I saw before making the final decision.

    The referee has 60 seconds to make a decision once he gets under the hood. Nevertheless, this all boils down to human judgment. In the end, itís Leavyís judgment that counts. Not everybody sees things the same way as this clearly shows. Five plays later, the Packers scored a touchdown to tie it at 10.

    There was another controversial call ó a call of roughing the quarterback against Osi Umenyiora ó that led to another Green Bay touchdown in the fourth quarter, but nothing was going to stop the Giants on this day. Not Rodgers, not the Packers' offense and certainly not any controversial calls.

    Letís take a look at some of the other interesting calls from Sunday:

    THE GAME: NY Giants at Green Bay

    THE SITUATION: Green Bay had the ball, third-and-8 on the Giants 44-yard line with 7:07 remaining in the second quarter. The score was 10-10.


    THE PLAY: Giants quarterback Eli Manning completed a 17-yard pass to Jake Ballard, who was tackled by Morgan Burnett. On the play, Manning was hit by the Packersí Desmond Bishop after he threw the ball. No penalty was called.

    MY TAKE: I think this was roughing the passer. The rule book categorizes the types of roughing the passer. It includes such things as hit to the head, hitting passerís knee or hitting a passer out of the play, etc. It also lists the one-step rule, which for simplicityís sake would be better described as the two-step rule. The rule states: "Once a pass has been released by a passer, a rushing defender may make direct contact with the passer only up through the rusherís first step after such release (prior to second step hitting the ground); thereafter, the rusher must be making an attempt to avoid contact and must not continue to drive through or otherwise forcibly contact the passer." Therefore, I think a foul should have been called, and I think Burnett can expect a letter from the league.
    Peace,
    DragonSoul



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    Thankfully the G-Men won, because this was one of the worst-called big games I can recall...and ALL the calls went for the Packers.


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    yeah we beat the snot out of the pack and the refs. the refs were even worse in this game then the steelers seahawks sb.

    this game was the worst officiated game i've ever seen. it makes the win feel even better. leavy needs to be fired.

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    Re: ARTICLE : Giants overcome controversial calls BY Mike Pereir***

    mike pereira? hes an analyst on fox. Not sure what he has to do with anything that happened in the game.

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    Re: ARTICLE : Giants overcome controversial calls BY Mike Pereir***

    [quote user="slipknottin"]mike pereira? hes an analyst on fox. Not sure what he has to do with anything that happened in the game.[/quote]What does the former VP of officiating have to do with drawing attention to blatant blown calls?

    What?

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    Re: ARTICLE : Giants overcome controversial calls BY Mike Pereir***

    [quote user="slipknottin"]mike pereira? hes an analyst on fox. Not sure what he has to do with anything that happened in the game.[/quote]

    He's a former, maybe head, official. They talk to him during games about challenges and questions on rules. So I'm glad to hear him speaking out against this.

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    Re: ARTICLE : Giants overcome controversial calls BY Mike Pereir***

    [quote user="Itlan"][quote user="slipknottin"]mike pereira? hes an analyst on fox. Not sure what he has to do with anything that happened in the game.[/quote]What does the former VP of officiating have to do with drawing attention to blatant blown calls?

    What?[/quote]

    the article was written by Periera? Confusing.

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    Re: ARTICLE : Giants overcome controversial calls BY Mike Pereir***

    [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="Itlan"][quote user="slipknottin"]mike pereira? hes an analyst on fox. Not sure what he has to do with anything that happened in the game.[/quote]What does the former VP of officiating have to do with drawing attention to blatant blown calls?

    What?[/quote]

    the article was written by Periera? Confusing.[/quote]Yes lol. He basically said the Osi hit and the Jennings fumble were two bull**** calls that the NFL needs to correct, saying he doesn't understand how you can go under the hood for 60 seconds and not see Jennings clearly fumble.

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    [quote user="Garbloz"]yeah we beat the snot out of the pack and the refs. the refs were even worse in this game then the steelers seahawks sb. this game was the worst officiated game i've ever seen. it makes the win feel even better. leavy needs to be fired.[/quote]




    I think the NFL needs to have someone above Leavy that can get the ****ing calls right, at least in the playoffs.


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