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    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

    [quote user="juice33s"]Not really a sleeper, but is it just me or is Justin Houston not getting nearly enough credit for being an elite edge rusher. Right now most people have him as a late 1st round prospect when in my mind he's the best edge rusher in the draft.

    He has great size at 6'3" 260, great production (11 sacks 20 TFL) and his burst off the line off scrimmage is unmatched through out the rest of the draft. Also Houston is supposedly a work out warrior, so I expect come combine time for his stock to go through the roof.

    Right now I'd put him over Von Miller, Robert Quinn, Ryan Kerrigan and as a pure pass rusher maybe even Daquan Bowers.

    I'm predicting top 10 easy, maybe even top 5 for Justin Houston
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    i agree he is beingg undersold but i wouldnt put him that high. pretty ballsy prediction, we'll see.

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    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    Here is the rosters for the Texas Vs the Nation game







    Nation:
    QB Enderle, Nathan Idaho
    QB Yates, TJ North Carolina-smart QB who could handle Giants system.Not a bad developmental option




    QB Van Camp, Jeff - Florida Atlantic
    RB Spann, Chad Northern Illinois
    RB Berry, Damien Miami
    RB Draughn, Shaun - UNC
    FB Chapas, Shaun - Georgia
    FB/RB Payne, Keith Virginia
    WR Newsome, Jamar - Central Florida
    WR Holmes, Andre - Hillsdale
    WR Johnson-Koulianos, Derrell - Iowa
    WR Morgan, Joe - Walsh
    WR Durham, Kris Georgia
    WR Spencer, Owen North Carolina State
    TE Smith, Andre Virginia Tech
    TE Hardy, Daniel Idaho
    TE Oordt, Schuylar - Northern Iowa- A TE with very good measrements if there accurate. 6-6 246 with a sub 4.6 40 time. A very high YPC for a TE. Dont know a lot about him but interested seeing him play against better competition then what he is used to. Maybe an UDFA pick up




    OT Young, DJ Michigan State
    OL Kilgore, Daniel - Appalachian State
    OL Smith, Willie East Carolina
    OL King, Jarriel - South Carolina
    OL Davis, Josh Georgia
    OL Porter, Curt - Jacksonville State
    OC/OG Thorson, Brad Kansas
    OG Johnson, Carl Florida
    OL Hendrickson, Pete - Tulane
    OL Taylor, Zane Utah
    DE Marshall, Craig - USF
    DE/DT Levingston, Lazarius LSU
    DE White, Markus - Florida State
    DE Nurse, Clay Illinois
    DT Kearse, Frank Alabama A & M
    DT Graves, John - Virginia Tech
    DT Ajiboye, Ladi - South Carolina
    DT Ellis, Kenrick - Hampton I
    LB Smith, DJ - Appalachian State
    ILB Harvey, Mario - Marshall
    OLB DE Addison, Mario Troy
    OLB Moten, Adrian - Maryland
    OLB Thomas, JT West Virginia
    OLB Hunter, Jeremiha Iowa
    OLB/DE Gee, Mike Indiana PA/Virginia Tech
    CB Maxwell, Byron Clemson
    CB Cuff, Vance Georgia
    CB Brinkley, Niles Wisconsin
    CB Torrence, Devon Ohio State-very good sized and measurable cornerfrom Ohio State.
    CB Gaitor, Anthony Florida International
    S Legree, Mark - Appalachian State
    S Rolle, Maurice University of Louisiana - Lafayette
    DB Walters, Anthony - Delaware
    DB Abdul-El Quddus, Isa Fordham
    P/K Bosher, Matt - Miami (FL)
    K Rogers, Jacob Cincinnati
    KR/WR/RB Saunders, Jock West Virginia
    LS Adams, Corey Kansas State

    Texas:
    QB Potts, Taylor - Texas Tech
    QB Portis, Josh California PA/Maryland
    QB Colburn, Ryan Fresno State
    RB Asiata, Matt Utah
    RB Fannin, Mario-Auburn
    RB Finley, Jay Baylor
    FB/RB Hughes, Robert Notre Dame
    FB Bartlett, Justin - Carroll - MT.
    WR Burton, Stephen -West Texas A&M
    WR Lockett, Ricardo - Fort Valley State
    WR Adams, Kris - UTEP
    WR Moore, Denarius Tennessee
    WR Matthews, Chris - Kentucky
    WR Harris, Marcus Murray State
    WR/KR/PR Ross, Jeremy - California
    TE Housler, Robert Florida Atlantic University
    TE Graham, Cameron Louisville-Should get his in this game
    TE Skelton, Stephen - Fordham
    OT Newton, Derek - Arkansas State
    OG Stewart, Chris - Notre Dame
    OL Turner, Trevis-Abilene Christian
    OL Person, Mike-Montana State
    OG Thompson, Isaiah-Houston
    OL Hughes, Kevin-SE Louisiana
    OC Barnes, Tim-Missouri
    OL Dominguez, Ray Arkansas
    OC Kirkpatrick, Jake - TCU-in my opinion the best O-lineman in this game. he better prove it
    OL Bell, Byron- New Mexico
    DE Chinasa, Ugo - Oklahoma State
    DE Jones, Eddie Texas
    DE Anthony, Christian Gambling State
    DE/OLB Daniels, Wayne TCU
    DT Whitlock, Colby - Texas Tech
    DT Bryant, Corbin Northwestern
    DT Patterson, Lucas Texas A & M
    DT Lumpkin, Ricky Kentucky
    OLB Williams, Jabara - Stephen F. Austin
    OLB Davie, Quentin Northwestern
    OLB/ DE Lattimore, Jamari- Middle Tennessee State
    OLB Paysinger, Spencer - Oregon
    ILB Duncan, Brian Texas Tech
    ILB Baptiste, Tressor - Texas A&M Kingsville/Hofstra
    CB Jones, Ryan - Northwest Missouri State
    CB McGee, Andrew - Oklahoma State
    CB Rutland, Kevin Missouri
    CB Skrine, Buster - UT Chattanooga
    CB Hagan, Darian - California
    S Gomes, DeJon - Nebraska
    S Hagg, Eric Nebraska-Later round safety prospect with experience in a nickel tweener role. Plays Linebacker,Corner and safety for Nebraska at 6-2 210
    DB Gatlin, Josh - North Dakota State
    DB Sherman, Richard Stanford
    P Epperson, Derek - Baylor
    K Weber, Thomas - Arizona State
    KR/CB Rembert, Reggie - Air Force
    LS Flaherty, Harry Princeton

    [/quote] a few other guys to watch in the game are Anthony Gaitor CB Fla int, Tim Barnes C Mizzo, Mark Legree S App St, Chad Spann RB No.Ill, Derek Newton OT Ark St, Zane Taylor C/G Utah, Ugo Chinasa DE Ok St, Damien Berry RB The U, Quentin Davie OLB NW....

    Oustide of the guys u highlighted, these are the guys i'm interested in most in this one as anywhere from mid to late to Un drafted free agents.... I guess i'd throw Carl Johnson G FLA and Shawn Chapas FB(heck of a blocker) in there as well...

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    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

    I know i mentioned this guy alot on other threads and in mock drafts, but i believe alot in his talent, and that Davonte Shannon SS BUFFALO.... One of the last from the Turner Gill Era... This guys a beast, and i gurantee he gets drafted, and i believe will follow in the Mike Newton and James Starks and Jamey Richard and drew willys mold of buff players in the NFL.... Shannon is a absoulute Top hitter who can jar the ball loose, and has solid ball skills and anticipates very well, hes one of the Top players overall in the MAC, and i think will make a club and make a impact in time, one of my favorite sleepers of this draft season... A double digit tackle machine....

    Heres some secondary Sleepers, and i'll do some other positons later on...


    Safety's...

    Davonte Shannon SS Buffalo- been talking about him for ever now, described above...

    Mark Legree S Appalachian St- Ballhawk, is the word to describe Legree, could follow recent app st nfl draftee's all the way to the NFL...

    Joe Lefeged SS Rutgers- Hard hitting, snot bubble rocking safety, who will help on special teams and posibly blocking kicks, and has solid ball skills, and could return kicks possibly.. Not a real sleeper, but somewhat, as i see him as a 4th-5th rd guy and Special team Ace, maybe in the Tyree and Kasim Osgood mold of ST ace...

    Chris Culliver S/CB S.Carolina- injury plaqued, but a sloid prospect, that if healthy , couldve been in the 3rd rd range, but may fall to the sleeper rds, and has good size, and versatility, can play Safety and CB, and has solid speed and seems like a Perry Fewell type versaile defensive player..

    CORNER BACKS

    Darrin Walls CB N.Dame- all ready talked about him on Opening Post of this thread, great looking late rd CB. Good in Run recogniton, solid speed and good size, leadership qualities...

    anthony gaitor cb fla int- Ballhawking CB from small school... Not super fast or big, but gets it done, and isn't afraid of sticking his nose in on run tackling.... physical player...

    marcus gilchrist cb clemson
    - a solid sized, solid speed corner... made move from safety to corner, and did fairly well, has some promise...

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"] I know i mentioned this guy alot on other threads and in mock drafts, but i believe alot in his talent, and that Davonte Shannon SS BUFFALO.... One of the last from the Turner Gill Era... This guys a beast, and i gurantee he gets drafted, and i believe will follow in the Mike Newton and James Starks and Jamey Richard and drew willys mold of buff players in the NFL.... Shannon is a absoulute Top hitter who can jar the ball loose, and has solid ball skills and anticipates very well, hes one of the Top players overall in the MAC, and i think will make a club and make a impact in time, one of my favorite sleepers of this draft season... A double digit tackle machine....

    Heres some secondary Sleepers, and i'll do some other positons later on...


    Safety's...

    Davonte Shannon SS Buffalo- been talking about him for ever now, described above...

    Mark Legree S Appalachian St- Ballhawk, is the word to describe Legree, could follow recent app st nfl draftee's all the way to the NFL...

    Joe Lefeged SS Rutgers- Hard hitting, snot bubble rocking safety, who will help on special teams and posibly blocking kicks, and has solid ball skills, and could return kicks possibly.. Not a real sleeper, but somewhat, as i see him as a 4th-5th rd guy and Special team Ace, maybe in the Tyree and Kasim Osgood mold of ST ace...

    Chris Culliver S/CB S.Carolina- injury plaqued, but a sloid prospect, that if healthy , couldve been in the 3rd rd range, but may fall to the sleeper rds, and has good size, and versatility, can play Safety and CB, and has solid speed and seems like a Perry Fewell type versaile defensive player..

    CORNER BACKS

    Darrin Walls CB N.Dame- all ready talked about him on Opening Post of this thread, great looking late rd CB. Good in Run recogniton, solid speed and good size, leadership qualities...

    anthony gaitor cb fla int- Ballhawking CB from small school... Not super fast or big, but gets it done, and isn't afraid of sticking his nose in on run tackling.... physical player...

    marcus gilchrist cb clemson
    - a solid sized, solid speed corner... made move from safety to corner, and did fairly well, has some promise...
    [/quote]
    you watch buffalo, tell me about josh thomas.

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    [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] I know i mentioned this guy alot on other threads and in mock drafts, but i believe alot in his talent, and that Davonte Shannon SS BUFFALO.... One of the last from the Turner Gill Era... This guys a beast, and i gurantee he gets drafted, and i believe will follow in the Mike Newton and James Starks and Jamey Richard and drew willys mold of buff players in the NFL.... Shannon is a absoulute Top hitter who can jar the ball loose, and has solid ball skills and anticipates very well, hes one of the Top players overall in the MAC, and i think will make a club and make a impact in time, one of my favorite sleepers of this draft season... A double digit tackle machine....

    Heres some secondary Sleepers, and i'll do some other positons later on...


    Safety's...

    Davonte Shannon SS Buffalo- been talking about him for ever now, described above...

    Mark Legree S Appalachian St- Ballhawk, is the word to describe Legree, could follow recent app st nfl draftee's all the way to the NFL...

    Joe Lefeged SS Rutgers- Hard hitting, snot bubble rocking safety, who will help on special teams and posibly blocking kicks, and has solid ball skills, and could return kicks possibly.. Not a real sleeper, but somewhat, as i see him as a 4th-5th rd guy and Special team Ace, maybe in the Tyree and Kasim Osgood mold of ST ace...

    Chris Culliver S/CB S.Carolina- injury plaqued, but a sloid prospect, that if healthy , couldve been in the 3rd rd range, but may fall to the sleeper rds, and has good size, and versatility, can play Safety and CB, and has solid speed and seems like a Perry Fewell type versaile defensive player..

    CORNER BACKS

    Darrin Walls CB N.Dame- all ready talked about him on Opening Post of this thread, great looking late rd CB. Good in Run recogniton, solid speed and good size, leadership qualities...

    anthony gaitor cb fla int- Ballhawking CB from small school... Not super fast or big, but gets it done, and isn't afraid of sticking his nose in on run tackling.... physical player...

    marcus gilchrist cb clemson
    - a solid sized, solid speed corner... made move from safety to corner, and did fairly well, has some promise...
    [/quote]
    you watch buffalo, tell me about josh thomas.
    [/quote] not as much this yr, i just kept following Davonte Shannon, because i watched a ton of the Turner Gill run teams, wtih Drew Willly, Mike Newton and James Starks and Davonte Shannon ... Davonte is the last one, and there team flat out stunk, so they didn't get the run that they got on TV(thursday ESPNU games) that they got last yr and the yr before, but betting on games, i follow just about every team, to a degree... But buffalo is getting worse, in my opinion... Now with Davonte Gone, they may be even worse...

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    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

    Well take Taiwan Jones off the sleeper list. Multiple NFL teams consider him a top 75 pick if he passes the medical exams.

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    [quote user="slipknottin"]Well take Taiwan Jones off the sleeper list. Multiple NFL teams consider him a top 75 pick if he passes the medical exams.[/quote]yeah ive seen him ranked in the top 10 rb's as high as 7 i think. kid is gaining steam.

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] I know i mentioned this guy alot on other threads and in mock drafts, but i believe alot in his talent, and that Davonte Shannon SS BUFFALO.... One of the last from the Turner Gill Era... This guys a beast, and i gurantee he gets drafted, and i believe will follow in the Mike Newton and James Starks and Jamey Richard and drew willys mold of buff players in the NFL.... Shannon is a absoulute Top hitter who can jar the ball loose, and has solid ball skills and anticipates very well, hes one of the Top players overall in the MAC, and i think will make a club and make a impact in time, one of my favorite sleepers of this draft season... A double digit tackle machine....

    Heres some secondary Sleepers, and i'll do some other positons later on...


    Safety's...

    Davonte Shannon SS Buffalo- been talking about him for ever now, described above...

    Mark Legree S Appalachian St- Ballhawk, is the word to describe Legree, could follow recent app st nfl draftee's all the way to the NFL...

    Joe Lefeged SS Rutgers- Hard hitting, snot bubble rocking safety, who will help on special teams and posibly blocking kicks, and has solid ball skills, and could return kicks possibly.. Not a real sleeper, but somewhat, as i see him as a 4th-5th rd guy and Special team Ace, maybe in the Tyree and Kasim Osgood mold of ST ace...

    Chris Culliver S/CB S.Carolina- injury plaqued, but a sloid prospect, that if healthy , couldve been in the 3rd rd range, but may fall to the sleeper rds, and has good size, and versatility, can play Safety and CB, and has solid speed and seems like a Perry Fewell type versaile defensive player..

    CORNER BACKS

    Darrin Walls CB N.Dame- all ready talked about him on Opening Post of this thread, great looking late rd CB. Good in Run recogniton, solid speed and good size, leadership qualities...

    anthony gaitor cb fla int- Ballhawking CB from small school... Not super fast or big, but gets it done, and isn't afraid of sticking his nose in on run tackling.... physical player...

    marcus gilchrist cb clemson
    - a solid sized, solid speed corner... made move from safety to corner, and did fairly well, has some promise...
    [/quote]
    you watch buffalo, tell me about josh thomas.
    [/quote] not as much this yr, i just kept following Davonte Shannon, because i watched a ton of the Turner Gill run teams, wtih Drew Willly, Mike Newton and James Starks and Davonte Shannon ... Davonte is the last one, and there team flat out stunk, so they didn't get the run that they got on TV(thursday ESPNU games) that they got last yr and the yr before, but betting on games, i follow just about every team, to a degree... But buffalo is getting worse, in my opinion... Now with Davonte Gone, they may be even worse...
    [/quote]




    U should of called this the 3rd annual Sleeper Thread


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    Re: 2011 NFL DRAFT "Sleeper" Thread(Giant MB Traditon!!)

    DeMarcus Van D-y-k-e the CB out of Miami is a guy to watch, especially at the combine.

    He's 6'1 170 pounds, has the frame to add bulk, but he may very well run under a 4.3 at the combine. He's not projected to be drafted until the 6th or 7th round, but he has significant upside based off his height/speed.

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    [quote user="slipknottin"]DeMarcus Van D-y-k-e the CB out of Miami is a guy to watch, especially at the combine. He's 6'1 170 pounds, has the frame to add bulk, but he may very well run under a 4.3 at the combine. He's not projected to be drafted until the 6th or 7th round, but he has significant upside based off his height/speed.[/quote] Yeah he can really run. 167 pounds i thought that was a misprint when I first saw that. That is incredibly skinny for 6-1. He may match up down theline with tiny over on the Eagles though

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