2012 annual sleeper thread(2011 part of thread as well)

[Neverend]

i wonder whats his vision like. granted you guys are going by youtube highlights and never seen him in actual game but if he has decent vision i can envision him as a returner. he has great speed and acceleration</P>

[thegreatone]

[quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="juice33s"][quote user="slipknottin"]Hb I am watching. Taiwan Jones.[/quote]
Looks pretty sick....Outstanding agility, balance and acceleration, also has nice hands out of the backfield....plus his nickname is "Juice", so whats not to like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYVJ82hmT8g
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He's a he'll of an open field runner. I bet he has a great combine.[/quote]that 2nd to last run was SICK. how come i havent heard about him before? kids got some serious vison and moves. cant wait to see more.

[slipknottin]

[quote user="thegreatone"][]that 2nd to last run was SICK. how come i havent heard about him before? kids got some serious vison and moves. cant wait to see more.
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Small school underclassman.

[thegreatone]

[quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="thegreatone"][]that 2nd to last run was SICK. how come i havent heard about him before? kids got some serious vison and moves. cant wait to see more.
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Small school underclassman.[/quote]sstill. you'ld think he woulda been mentioned. havent heard his name once.

[Neverend]

[quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="thegreatone"][]that 2nd to last run was SICK. how come i havent heard about him before? kids got some serious vison and moves. cant wait to see more.
[/quote] Small school underclassman.[/quote]sstill. you'ld think he woulda been mentioned. havent heard his name once.
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Same</P>

[GMENAGAIN]

[quote user="nycsportzfan"]Well, in what has become a Fun traditon on these boards, i decided to start this yrs SLEEPER thread for the 2011 NFL DRAFT... It was a awesome thread last yr, and its meant for mid to later rd guys who people think are gonna make it in the pro's and help our club or a club... Dosen't have to be Super Star, just a guy or guys who will make it and help and become known on the next level...

A guy i'm liking right now for a 6th-7th and maybe 5th if he does good at the Shrine Game and in Pre Draft workouts is DT TERRELL McCLAIN of S.FLORIDA... Hes got very good size and showed enough production to warrent middish to late rd consideration in hopes of finding a gem..McClain offers a nice mix of Run Stopping and at causing havoc in his penetration.. Coach Holtz said Measurable wise, McClain may be the best prospect they have to offer in this yrs draft.. Watch for him to make some noise in moving up some on the way toward the draft... Think 4th-6th rd with a ceiling of 3rd rd if everything in the world works out


Another player i like for the later rounds is Notre Dame CB Darrin Walls.. I've watched him his whole career as a diehard ND fan, and hes got SUNDAY potential.. Not afraid to mix it up in run support with his solid CB SIZE(6ft 190lb), and plays the ball very well in the air... Very expierenced, and easily the best Player in Notre Dames Secondary... Very solid ST player at ND.. Can play man as well as most CB's in college ball, and has nice speed and agility... A Solid all around player.. Think 4th-6th rd

One more Sleeper for now that i'll mention is Louisville TE Cameron Graham... Hes become one of my fave TE prospects out there, with his length and hands... Had 10games of at least 3catches and can block pretty solidly.. OC mike sanford has said, hes a good blend of on the line blocking TE and recevier, and also mentions, hes not the biggest TE, but he works his but off... Graham was highly recruited jr college player, getting scholarship offers from LSU and Arizona st, but chose Louisville due to playing more quickly... A definete player to keep a eye on going forward... Think 5th-7th with ceiling of late 4th...


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Hey nyc . . . knew you'd resurface around draft time.</P>


How are things??</P>


Who do you like in the first and second rounds this year for the Gmen? What do you think of Mason Foster?</P>

[slipknottin]

[quote user="thegreatone"]still. you'ld think he woulda been mentioned. havent heard his name once.
[/quote]

Well most draft places focus on the big time players, first three rounds.

There was some confusion wether he even declared because he wasn't included on the nfls list of eligible underclassmen

[Redeyejedi]

Here is the rosters for the Texas Vs the Nation game</P>


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<SPAN><SPAN>Nation:
</SPAN>QB Enderle, Nathan – Idaho
<FONT size=5>QB Yates, TJ – North Carolina-<FONT size=3>smart QB who could handle Giants system.Not a bad developmental option</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>


<SPAN></SPAN><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>QB Van Camp, Jeff - Florida Atlantic
RB Spann, Chad – Northern Illinois
RB Berry, Damien – Miami
RB Draughn, Shaun - UNC
FB Chapas, Shaun - Georgia
FB/RB Payne, Keith – Virginia
WR Newsome, Jamar - Central Florida
WR Holmes, Andre - Hillsdale
WR Johnson-Koulianos, Derrell - Iowa
WR Morgan, Joe - Walsh
WR Durham, Kris – Georgia
WR Spencer, Owen – North Carolina State
TE Smith, Andre – Virginia Tech
TE Hardy, Daniel – Idaho
<FONT size=5>TE Oordt, Schuylar - Northern Iowa-<FONT size=3> A TE with very good measrements if there accurate. 6-6 246 with a sub 4.6 40 time. A very high YPC for a TE. Dont know a lot about him but interested seeing him play against better competition then what he is used to. Maybe an UDFA pick up</FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>


<SPAN>OT Young, DJ – Michigan State
OL Kilgore, Daniel - Appalachian State
OL Smith, Willie – East Carolina
OL King, Jarriel - South Carolina
OL Davis, Josh – Georgia
OL Porter, Curt - Jacksonville State
OC/OG Thorson, Brad – Kansas
OG Johnson, Carl – Florida
OL Hendrickson, Pete - Tulane
OL Taylor, Zane – Utah
DE Marshall, Craig - USF
DE/DT Levingston, Lazarius – LSU
DE White, Markus - Florida State
DE Nurse, Clay – Illinois
DT Kearse, Frank – Alabama A &amp; M
DT Graves, John - Virginia Tech
DT Ajiboye, Ladi - South Carolina
DT Ellis, Kenrick - Hampton I
LB Smith, DJ - Appalachian State
ILB Harvey, Mario - Marshall
OLB DE Addison, Mario – Troy
OLB Moten, Adrian - Maryland
OLB Thomas, JT – West Virginia
OLB Hunter, Jeremiha – Iowa
OLB/DE Gee, Mike – Indiana PA/Virginia Tech
CB Maxwell, Byron – Clemson
CB Cuff, Vance – Georgia
CB Brinkley, Niles – Wisconsin
<FONT size=5>CB Torrence, Devon – Ohio State-<FONT size=3>very good sized and measurable cornerfrom Ohio State. </FONT>
</FONT>CB Gaitor, Anthony – Florida International
S Legree, Mark - Appalachian State
S Rolle, Maurice – University of Louisiana - Lafayette
DB Walters, Anthony - Delaware
DB Abdul-El Quddus, Isa – Fordham
P/K Bosher, Matt - Miami (FL)
K Rogers, Jacob – Cincinnati
KR/WR/RB Saunders, Jock – West Virginia
LS Adams, Corey – Kansas State

</SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Texas:
</SPAN>QB Potts, Taylor - Texas Tech
QB Portis, Josh – California PA/Maryland
QB Colburn, Ryan – Fresno State
RB Asiata, Matt – Utah
RB Fannin, Mario-Auburn
RB Finley, Jay – Baylor
FB/RB Hughes, Robert – Notre Dame
FB Bartlett, Justin - Carroll - MT.
WR Burton, Stephen -West Texas A&amp;M
WR Lockett, Ricardo - Fort Valley State
WR Adams, Kris - UTEP
WR Moore, Denarius – Tennessee
WR Matthews, Chris - Kentucky
WR Harris, Marcus – Murray State
WR/KR/PR Ross, Jeremy - California
TE Housler, Robert – Florida Atlantic University
<FONT size=5>TE Graham, Cameron – Louisville-<FONT size=3>Should get his in this game</FONT>
</FONT>TE Skelton, Stephen - Fordham
OT Newton, Derek - Arkansas State
OG Stewart, Chris - Notre Dame
OL Turner, Trevis-Abilene Christian
OL Person, Mike-Montana State
OG Thompson, Isaiah-Houston
OL Hughes, Kevin-SE Louisiana
OC Barnes, Tim-Missouri
OL Dominguez, Ray – Arkansas
<FONT size=5>OC Kirkpatrick, Jake - TCU-<FONT size=3>in my opinion the best O-lineman in this game. he better prove it</FONT>
</FONT>OL Bell, Byron- New Mexico
DE Chinasa, Ugo - Oklahoma State
DE Jones, Eddie – Texas
DE Anthony, Christian – Gambling State
DE/OLB Daniels, Wayne – TCU
DT Whitlock, Colby - Texas Tech
DT Bryant, Corbin – Northwestern
DT Patterson, Lucas – Texas A &amp; M
DT Lumpkin, Ricky – Kentucky
OLB Williams, Jabara - Stephen F. Austin
OLB Davie, Quentin – Northwestern
OLB/ DE Lattimore, Jamari- Middle Tennessee State
OLB Paysinger, Spencer - Oregon
ILB Duncan, Brian – Texas Tech
ILB Baptiste, Tressor - Texas A&amp;M Kingsville/Hofstra
CB Jones, Ryan - Northwest Missouri State
CB McGee, Andrew - Oklahoma State
CB Rutland, Kevin – Missouri
CB Skrine, Buster - UT Chattanooga
CB Hagan, Darian - California
S Gomes, DeJon - Nebraska
<FONT size=5>S Hagg, Eric – Nebraska-<FONT size=3>Later round safety prospect with experience in a nickel tweener role. Plays Linebacker,Corner and safety for Nebraska at 6-2 210</FONT>
</FONT>DB Gatlin, Josh - North Dakota State
DB Sherman, Richard – Stanford
P Epperson, Derek - Baylor
K Weber, Thomas - Arizona State
KR/CB Rembert, Reggie - Air Force
LS Flaherty, Harry – Princeton</SPAN></P>

[thegreatone]

[quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="thegreatone"]still. you'ld think he woulda been mentioned. havent heard his name once.
[/quote]

Well most draft places focus on the big time players, first three rounds.

There was some confusion wether he even declared because he wasn't included on the nfls list of eligible underclassmen[/quote]well ihope to hear and see more. is he in any all star games? or will we just see him at the combine, if he is even invited.

[juice33s]

Not really a sleeper, but is it just me or is Justin Houston not getting nearly enough credit for being an elite edge rusher. Right now most people have him as a late 1st round prospect when in my mind he's the best edge rusher in the draft.

He has great size at 6'3" 260, great production (11 sacks 20 TFL) and his burst off the line off scrimmage is unmatched through out the rest of the draft. Also Houston is supposedly a work out warrior, so I expect come combine time for his stock to go through the roof.

Right now I'd put him over Von Miller, Robert Quinn, Ryan Kerrigan and as a pure pass rusher maybe even Daquan Bowers.

I'm predicting top 10 easy, maybe even top 5 for Justin Houston