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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

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    read through this thread</P>


    http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard...d.php?t=127233</P>


    interesting comments*more complaints and such</P>


    bring on Sunday</P>[/quote]
    I've always been a Joe Montana fan and now I have to feel bad about him having to go back to the Schtick on ring-of-honor days and get cheered by serial gropers. Poor Joe.

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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    I'm a Eagles fan, so I know classless when I see it. I went to the Eagles/Niners game last year and someone threw a beer at my little sisters head and they spit in my food. I believe the OP. Candlestick reminds me of the Vet, ALOT. Forget my team allegience for a moment, I'm talking to you guys, not as a fan but as men....BE CAREFUL!

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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    [quote user="un3ek9er"]My good friend is a Giants fan. She goes to all the home games. When you guys played Dallas in week 17, she called me afterwards to tell me how she harassed and yelled vulgar statements to Dallas fans as they were leaving the stadium. So, I guess I should assume that all of you are arrogant *******s that berate fans. Maybe I should go to everyone I know and make ridiculous statements about how classless you are because of her actions.


    You can't sit here and tell me that everyone in your fan base are polite and sing Kumbaya with the opposing teams fans. There are aholes in every fan base, but they don't represent the fan base as a whole.[/quote]

    My uncle is a Cowboys fan and he claims to have been harassed his entire life by Giants fans. That proves it. All Giants fans are classless.


    See how that works?

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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    [quote user="Bread"]I'm a Eagles fan, so I know classless when I see it. I went to the Eagles/Niners game last year and someone threw a beer at my little sisters head and they spit in my food. I believe the OP. Candlestick reminds me of the Vet, ALOT. Forget my team allegience for a moment, I'm talking to you guys, not as a fan but as men....BE CAREFUL![/quote]

    Hey look what I found:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2isksLw0jW8

    I guess Eagles fans are awful.

  5. #105

    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    I'll be sure to keep my head up when walking out of that stadium after we whoop their asses.

    You think that if they could take a ****, they'd be able to take a loss.

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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    [quote user="Black59Razor"][quote user="un3ek9er"]My good friend is a Giants fan. She goes to all the home games. When you guys played Dallas in week 17, she called me afterwards to tell me how she harassed and yelled vulgar statements to Dallas fans as they were leaving the stadium. So, I guess I should assume that all of you are arrogant *******s that berate fans. Maybe I should go to everyone I know and make ridiculous statements about how classless you are because of her actions.


    You can't sit here and tell me that everyone in your fan base are polite and sing Kumbaya with the opposing teams fans. There are aholes in every fan base, but they don't represent the fan base as a whole.[/quote]

    My uncle is a Cowboys fan and he claims to have been harassed his entire life by Giants fans. That proves it. All Giants fans are classless.


    See how that works?
    [/quote]
    Your point makes no sense. Everyone knows opposing fans will get heckled at stadiums and there will be a few fights, it's the fact that there are numerous reports of borderline sexual harrassment and criminal behavior not just by drunken fans but by gang members.

    Yet for all we know ALL these stories could be bogus.....

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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    [quote user="Black59Razor"][quote user="JMFP2"][quote user="Black59Razor"][quote user="JMFP2"]


    [quote user="Black59Razor"]All I have to say is that even though the OP apparently had a terrible time at Candlestick, it doesn't mean the entire fanbase are jerks. There are thugs there, just like there are in Oakland...but there are thugs everywhere in every NFL Stadium. Anyone who thinks this doesn't happen in New Orleans at the Superdome is just ignorant. Two 49ers fans got shot after the game by a Saints fan in Georgia. That doesn't mean I believe all Saints fans are devils. This one incident shouldn't detract yourselves from going to Candlestick. The original poster should file a complaint if the experience was that bad. On the other hand, it's a playoff game. Not surprising you might have some unsettling incidents if you are a Saints fan.

    Oh and I think most of you folks shouldn't just take the OP's word and a picture of a 49ers fan giving the middle finger as definitive proof for this story. Don't like calling anyone a liar, but at the same time let's not all be gullible here. How do we know this isn't just some upset Saints fan?
    [/quote]</P>


    Check out the Saints forum comments.</P>


    http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/fe...rience-221840/</P>


    Either that's an elaborate hoax, or at least 20 other people described getting the same treatment.</P>


    Seems like your fanbase has a high percentage of scumbags. I realize every team has them.....but seems like your ORGANIZATIONtolerates gang bangerswandering around the stadium intimidating people and molesting women.</P>


    Your fanbase is getting a serious black eye over this.</P>


    [/quote]

    It's a Saints forum. And the Saints just lost. What would you expect? There are going to be folks that either lie or exaggerate stories. I'm just saying that we weren't there and we don't know how truthful these claims are. Could be true, could also be false. Maybe if we had a video or something. Everyone is just taking people's word for what it is. Do you always believe whatever you read on the internet as truth?
    [/quote]</P>


    One story...sure, maybe an isolated event.</P>


    But look at how many people repeated borderline criminal harrassment.</P>


    Funny thing is, I always thought the 49ers were a class act.....but apparently, I was wrong.</P>


    [/quote]

    So what if a bunch of people reported this or that? Is there a video? Are there other people corroborating a single story? Or is just a bunch of separate claims?

    What you are using is a method called "Argumentum ad populum" which is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it; which alleges: "If many believe so, it is so."

    Just because a bunch of people said something or claims something is the truth, doesn't mean it is the truth. 100 years go people thought folks in Salem were witches and claimed this or that. The facts are that none of us were there and just taking someone or even a group of people's words for a specific event doesn't necessarily mean it's true and or/as bad as it has claimed to be. None of us were there, that's the bottom line. And going to a Saints board where the team just lost a playoff game...you think fans aren't going to exaggerate some things? Again, do you believe everything you believe on the internet that you read? Even if it's from a group of people?

    A lot of people think the world is going to end next December. You buying it?
    [/quote]</P>


    No, that's not the method I'm using.</P>


    A Saints fan started a post indicating his family was the target of nonstop harassment by many 49er fans. At first, I was skeptical myself (read back to my first comment). But, after checking out the forum link he posted, many Saints fans had similar stories. Then, a quick internet search revealed more stories along the same lines.</P>


    http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/01...y-fan-element/</P>


    Is it conclusive proof? No. But I'm not looking for Bigfoot. I'll take the word of dozens of Saints fans that Candlestick has a serious problem.</P>


    The fact that fans such as yourselfare sticking your head in the sand over it is probably one reason the situation is now apparently out of hand.</P>

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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    [quote user="Black59Razor"][quote user="Bread"]I'm a Eagles fan, so I know classless when I see it. I went to the Eagles/Niners game last year and someone threw a beer at my little sisters head and they spit in my food. I believe the OP. Candlestick reminds me of the Vet, ALOT. Forget my team allegience for a moment, I'm talking to you guys, not as a fan but as men....BE CAREFUL![/quote]

    Hey look what I found:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2isksLw0jW8

    I guess Eagles fans are awful.
    [/quote]
    You guess? There's a reason why they have a holding cell and court in the bowels of their stadium.


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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    I just took a giant crap... and it kinda looks like and smells like an exact replica of Candlestick park. 49ers fans are obnoxious. I want to go to this game now just so I can kick some disrespectful California ***** ***.

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    Re: My experience at Candlestick as a Saints fan

    [quote user="JMFP2"][quote user="Black59Razor"][quote user="JMFP2"][quote user="Black59Razor"][quote user="JMFP2"]


    [quote user="Black59Razor"]All I have to say is that even though the OP apparently had a terrible time at Candlestick, it doesn't mean the entire fanbase are jerks. There are thugs there, just like there are in Oakland...but there are thugs everywhere in every NFL Stadium. Anyone who thinks this doesn't happen in New Orleans at the Superdome is just ignorant. Two 49ers fans got shot after the game by a Saints fan in Georgia. That doesn't mean I believe all Saints fans are devils. This one incident shouldn't detract yourselves from going to Candlestick. The original poster should file a complaint if the experience was that bad. On the other hand, it's a playoff game. Not surprising you might have some unsettling incidents if you are a Saints fan.

    Oh and I think most of you folks shouldn't just take the OP's word and a picture of a 49ers fan giving the middle finger as definitive proof for this story. Don't like calling anyone a liar, but at the same time let's not all be gullible here. How do we know this isn't just some upset Saints fan?
    [/quote]</p>


    Check out the Saints forum comments.</p>


    http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/fe...rience-221840/</p>


    Either that's an elaborate hoax, or at least 20 other people described getting the same treatment.</p>


    Seems like your fanbase has a high percentage of scumbags. I realize every team has them.....but seems like your ORGANIZATIONtolerates gang bangerswandering around the stadium intimidating people and molesting women.</p>


    Your fanbase is getting a serious black eye over this.</p>


    [/quote]

    It's a Saints forum. And the Saints just lost. What would you expect? There are going to be folks that either lie or exaggerate stories. I'm just saying that we weren't there and we don't know how truthful these claims are. Could be true, could also be false. Maybe if we had a video or something. Everyone is just taking people's word for what it is. Do you always believe whatever you read on the internet as truth?
    [/quote]</p>


    One story...sure, maybe an isolated event.</p>


    But look at how many people repeated borderline criminal harrassment.</p>


    Funny thing is, I always thought the 49ers were a class act.....but apparently, I was wrong.</p>


    [/quote]

    So what if a bunch of people reported this or that? Is there a video? Are there other people corroborating a single story? Or is just a bunch of separate claims?

    What you are using is a method called "Argumentum ad populum" which is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it; which alleges: "If many believe so, it is so."

    Just because a bunch of people said something or claims something is the truth, doesn't mean it is the truth. 100 years go people thought folks in Salem were witches and claimed this or that. The facts are that none of us were there and just taking someone or even a group of people's words for a specific event doesn't necessarily mean it's true and or/as bad as it has claimed to be. None of us were there, that's the bottom line. And going to a Saints board where the team just lost a playoff game...you think fans aren't going to exaggerate some things? Again, do you believe everything you believe on the internet that you read? Even if it's from a group of people?

    A lot of people think the world is going to end next December. You buying it?
    [/quote]</p>


    No, that's not the method I'm using.</p>


    A Saints fan started a post indicating his family was the target of nonstop harassment by many 49er fans. At first, I was skeptical myself (read back to my first comment). But, after checking out the forum link he posted, many Saints fans had similar stories. Then, a quick internet search revealed more stories along the same lines.</p>


    Is it conclusive proof? No. But I'm not looking for Bigfoot. I'll take the word of dozens of Saints fans that Candlestick has a serious fan problem.</p>


    The fact that you are sticking your head in the sand over it is probably one reason the situation is now apparently out of hand.</p>[/quote]

    That's the thing though. You're just taking their word because you heard a few stories instead of actually have solid evidence to prove something. What about all the stories of Saints fans that didn't have problems?

    My point is that every NFL stadium is filled with "stories" like these. I'm sure there have been a lot of similar things 49ers fans would say about Giants fans and how they were treated when the 49ers went there during some of the home games for the Giants. Doesn't mean if I would believe all fans of the Giants are jerks. A few incidents, whether they are true or not, aren't indicative of an entire fanbase.

    And make using common sense about the situation has nothing to do with the alleged tales that we've been hearing. So I don't know where you were trying to go with that. I'm not sticking up for the entire fanbase, but I am saying the majority of the fans are okay people...just like you'll find with any other NFL team.

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