man it's good being a giants fan. we better enjoy these season's with a franchise qb. not since simms have we really had a leader that can take us to the big game year in and year out. trust me i remember the kent graham/dave brown battle's. so for the next 4-6 years let's enjoy having manning, and be glad we're not cleveland...who hasn't had anyone since kosar for crying out loud. go giants go!