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    PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    "The NFL on Tuesday said there were no illegal hits by the Super Bowl-bound
    Giants on 49ers return man Kyle Williams during the NFC championship game.


    Williams fumbled a punt in overtime of San Francisco's 20-17 loss Sunday, and
    the misplay set up Lawrence Tynes' winning field goal. Afterward, New York's
    Jacquian Williams and Devin Thomas indicated they were trying to hit Williams
    given his history of concussions, including the most recent one sustained Dec.
    24 at Seattle that kept him out of the regular-season finale at St. Louis.




    League spokesman Greg Aiello said in an email that the Giants did nothing
    against the rules.




    "Players are held accountable for their actions on the field. There were no
    illegal hits to the head or neck area against Kyle Williams on Sunday," Aiello
    said. "There was no conduct by the Giants of any kind that would suggest an
    effort to injure Kyle Williams in any way."




    Williams' agent, Ken Sarnoff, said the second-year pro is aware of the
    Giants' postgame comments but is done speaking publicly and is ready to move
    forward toward the 2012 season. The 49ers had no comment Tuesday.




    Jacquian Williams forced Kyle Williams' second fumble of the game. The
    fill-in return man was playing in place of injured regular Ted Ginn Jr.




    "The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest
    thing, was to take him outta the game," Jacquian Williams told reporters at
    Candlestick Park.




    Thomas recovered both fumbles, including one in the fourth quarter that went
    under review to reveal the ball glanced off Williams' right knee. Williams still
    insists the ball didn't hit him.




    "He's had a lot of concussions," Thomas told the Newark Star-Ledger.
    "We were just like, 'We gotta put a hit on that guy.'"

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    Re: PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    Never saw anything that said they did.

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    Re: PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    There have been a number of "suggestions" floating out in space about it. Just media hype mostly
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    Re: PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY



    [quote user="RoanokeFan"]There have been a number of "suggestions" floating out in space about it. Just media hype mostly
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    I read some of the articles -- they were just malicious against the Giants. There was no way to take what the Giants players said in their inteviews and say that they were talking about head-hunting, which was one of the false claims. It was total nonsense looking to smear this team. Total crap.


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    The 49ers are having a REALLY tough time of letting go of this.

    I guess I can't blame them being such a close game but jeez ... talk about grasping at straws.

    How about not letting the guy who already muffed one punt and almost another in the same game, be back there in OT?

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    I also think that their comments are being taken out of context. I'd love to read the full text of what they said. I wouldn't be surprised if it said something more along the lines of:

    "We wanted to get a hit on that guy, he's had concussions in the past, and if he takes a big hit he might think twice about trying to get that long return. We'd effectively take him out of the game. Make their return game non existent."

    Football is as much a mental game as it is physical and all the players on the field know it. Intimidation in any form takes a huge part.

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    Re: PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    early in the game Sash got a nice hit on him...

    it wasn't illegal though...

    the game plan was to bring the wood to this guy because he can break. Thats football
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    Re: PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    [quote user="RoanokeFan"]NFL:* GIANTS DID* NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    "The NFL on Tuesday said there were no illegal hits by the Super Bowl-bound
    Giants on 49ers return man Kyle Williams during the NFC championship game.


    Williams fumbled a punt in overtime of San Francisco's 20-17 loss Sunday, and
    the misplay set up Lawrence Tynes' winning field goal. Afterward, New York's
    Jacquian Williams and Devin Thomas indicated they were trying to hit Williams
    given his history of concussions, including the most recent one sustained Dec.
    24 at Seattle that kept him out of the regular-season finale at St. Louis.




    League spokesman Greg Aiello said in an email that the Giants did nothing
    against the rules.




    "Players are held accountable for their actions on the field. There were no
    illegal hits to the head or neck area against Kyle Williams on Sunday," Aiello
    said. "There was no conduct by the Giants of any kind that would suggest an
    effort to injure Kyle Williams in any way."




    Williams' agent, Ken Sarnoff, said the second-year pro is aware of the
    Giants' postgame comments but is done speaking publicly and is ready to move
    forward toward the 2012 season. The 49ers had no comment Tuesday.




    Jacquian Williams forced Kyle Williams' second fumble of the game. The
    fill-in return man was playing in place of injured regular Ted Ginn Jr.




    "The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest
    thing, was to take him outta the game," Jacquian Williams told reporters at
    Candlestick Park.




    Thomas recovered both fumbles, including one in the fourth quarter that went
    under review to reveal the ball glanced off Williams' right knee. Williams still
    insists the ball didn't hit him.




    "He's had a lot of concussions," Thomas told the Newark Star-Ledger.
    "We were just like, 'We gotta put a hit on that guy.'"

    [/quote]As typical fashion the Media took it out of context.

    They knew he had concussions in the past. So they felt if they hit him hard he would have a chance to drop/fumble the ball, due to the issue he has had in the past.

    They did not say they were going out there to hit him hard to cause an injury or another concussion. And as it was mentioned by a few , there were no Illegal hits, or attempts at it.

    They wanted to hit him hard, and see if he would be affected by the previous issue, not cause it. Btw do they not do that in all games? They were aware of it, thats about the only difference.
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    Re: PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY

    [quote user="nygpolishpunk"]I also think that their comments are being taken out of context. I'd love to read the full text of what they said. I wouldn't be surprised if it said something more along the lines of:

    "We wanted to get a hit on that guy, he's had concussions in the past, and if he takes a big hit he might think twice about trying to get that long return. We'd effectively take him out of the game. Make their return game non existent."

    Football is as much a mental game as it is physical and all the players on the field know it. Intimidation in any form takes a huge part.
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    Re: PFW - NFL: GIANTS DID NOT HIT WILLIAMS ILLEGALLY



    [quote user="nygpolishpunk"]I also think that their comments are being taken out of context. I'd love to read the full text of what they said. I wouldn't be surprised if it said something more along the lines of:

    "We wanted to get a hit on that guy, he's had concussions in the past, and if he takes a big hit he might think twice about trying to get that long return. We'd effectively take him out of the game. Make their return game non existent."

    Football is as much a mental game as it is physical and all the players on the field know it. Intimidation in any form takes a huge part.
    [/quote]




    I'm telling you -- the writer of the New Yorker article that started all of this had an agenda there. It was more of an anti-concusion crusade, which I'm all for, but he or she really took things out of context and made it sound like the Giants were drooling with delight over hoping to cause a concussion.




    And there was an idiot (Alex something-or-other) from Bleacher Reports who wrote an article based on the New Yorker article saying that they were "head-hunting." The New Yorker didn't even go that far. I read the Bleacher columnist's bio, and he was a Pats fan. I honestly believe that he was looking to prep the battlefield hoping that the league would take notice of this fake story and shine an extra (and unfair) light onto the Giants.




    It was absolutely malicious and both writers should apologize to J. Williams and the Giants. Other mags / papers quoted J. Williams as well, but they in no way made it sound like he was trying to do anything unfair, illegal, or dangerous.


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