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    This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/s...l-right-020512

    Per mike pereira

    The situation: The Giants had the ball, third-and-10 at the New England 43-yard line with 9:35 left in the game. The Patriots led 17-15.

    The play: Manning attempted a pass to Manningham, but it was broken up by Moore. Giants coach Tom Coughlin was visibly upset, as he thought pass interference should have been called.

    My take: I think it was a great no call. Moore’s left hand is on Manningham’s shoulder, but it does not twist or turn the receiver. The right hand went around Manningham’s back and knocked the ball away. It’s too tight to call pass interference because the contact was not enough to “significantly hinder” Manningham’s ability to catch the ball. The officiating crew had been letting them play the entire game, so they wouldn’t have wanted to call anything ticky-tack at that point of the game.

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    Do you know what I get from this? Exactly what we thought...Now we know its true. It is only a flag when the REFS deem it to be...

    Screw this... this is the problem interpretations
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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

    (a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch.

    (b) Playing through the back of a receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball.

    (c) Grabbing a receiver’s arm(s) in such a manner that restricts his opportunity to catch a pass.

    (d) Extending an arm across the body of a receiver thus restricting his ability to catch a pass, regardless of whether the defender is playing the ball.

    (e) Cutting off the path of a receiver by making contact with him without playing the ball.

    (f) Hooking a receiver in an attempt to get to the ball in such a manner that it causes the receiver’s body to turn prior to the ball arriving.
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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    [quote user="DragonSoul"]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/super-bowl-xlvi-mario-manningham-laird-hayes-eli-manning-sideline-catch-referee-call-right-020512

    Per mike pereira

    The situation: The Giants had the ball, third-and-10 at the New England 43-yard line with 9:35 left in the game. The Patriots led 17-15.

    The play: Manning attempted a pass to Manningham, but it was broken up by Moore. Giants coach Tom Coughlin was visibly upset, as he thought pass interference should have been called.

    My take: I think it was a great no call. Moore’s left hand is on Manningham’s shoulder, but it does not twist or turn the receiver. The right hand went around Manningham’s back and knocked the ball away. It’s too tight to call pass interference because the contact was not enough to “significantly hinder” Manningham’s ability to catch the ball. The officiating crew had been letting them play the entire game, so they wouldn’t have wanted to call anything ticky-tack at that point of the game.

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    Do you know what I get from this? Exactly what we thought...Now we know its true. It is only a flag when the REFS deem it to be...

    Screw this... this is the problem interpretations[/quote]

    The problem is that the rule itself leaves the play on the field open to interpretation... The rule states that it is not defensive pass interference if a defender lays a hand on a receiver but does not restrict his ability to make a play on the ball. You could argue that Manningham's ability to make a play was restricted by the defenders hand however the refs didn't see it that way... Honestly I think it was a terrible call....

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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    Your team just won the super bowl, and you're whining about a pretty decent non-call that easily goes either way? And 49er fans are supposed to be the ones that ***** and moan? lol.

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    Just watched the play again its obvious that the defender grabbed his pad and turned him impeding his ability to make the catch... Such a bull**** call.

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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    [quote user="look@dafilm"]Your team just won the super bowl, and you're whining about a pretty decent non-call that easily goes either way? And 49er fans are supposed to be the ones that ***** and moan? lol.
    [/quote]Sup troll. How is smith doing? Want me to bump that thread you ignored?

    PS. Unlike you dirty bunch, I prefer a ref to call it down the middle. But yet again we beat the team & the refs.
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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    [quote user="look@dafilm"]Your team just won the super bowl, and you're whining about a pretty decent non-call that easily goes either way? And 49er fans are supposed to be the ones that ***** and moan? lol.
    [/quote]

    It's a valid point and any Giants fan has the right to bring it up especially with how bad calls went against us this year... This team had to battle the refs in the biggest spots all year.

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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    [quote user="DragonSoul"][quote user="look@dafilm"]Your team just won the super bowl, and you're whining about a pretty decent non-call that easily goes either way? And 49er fans are supposed to be the ones that ***** and moan? lol.
    [/quote]Sup troll. How is smith doing? Want me to bump that thread you ignored?

    PS. Unlike you dirty bunch, I prefer a ref to call it down the middle. But yet again we beat the team & the refs.[/quote]

    Sure? Considering I didn't, go ahead.

    And Smith is just fine thank you. Aldon, Alex, Justin, they're pretty good, whichever one you're referring to.

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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    [quote user="NYCDBS"][quote user="look@dafilm"]Your team just won the super bowl, and you're whining about a pretty decent non-call that easily goes either way? And 49er fans are supposed to be the ones that ***** and moan? lol.
    [/quote]

    It's a valid point and any Giants fan has the right to bring it up especially with how bad calls went against us this year... This team had to battle the refs in the biggest spots all year.[/quote]

    I'm still fuming when about the non-fumble against Green Bay for you guys. I got into a big tiff over in Ninerville because I was pissed with Perierieira's explanation and some guy had a problem with it. A fumble is a fumble is a fumble.

    With that said however, the call in question in this thread is the right call IMO. If had been called a penalty, I certainly wouldn't be upset because I can see it going that way, but if if were my call I'd let the players play. He didn't hit him early, he just had his arm/hand hoovering over his back as he cam around for the ball. That's how they teach you, if you don't get the ball, at least you have the tackle.

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    Re: This is what is wrong with the refs and officiating...

    [quote user="look@dafilm"][quote user="DragonSoul"][quote user="look@dafilm"]Your team just won the super bowl, and you're whining about a pretty decent non-call that easily goes either way? And 49er fans are supposed to be the ones that ***** and moan? lol.
    [/quote]Sup troll. How is smith doing? Want me to bump that thread you ignored?

    PS. Unlike you dirty bunch, I prefer a ref to call it down the middle. But yet again we beat the team & the refs.[/quote]

    Sure? Considering I didn't, go ahead.

    And Smith is just fine thank you. Aldon, Alex, Justin, they're pretty good, whichever one you're referring to.
    [/quote]

    I'm sure they are "Just Fine" watching the Giants win the superbowl...

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