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    Franchise tagging period start tomorrow.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...er-new-rules/1

    Turns out it only costs $5.4 mil to tag a Tight End... lol

    With these kind of price tags, expect more teams to excerise the franchise tag this year unless they have no one worth tagging.

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    [quote user="NYGRealityCheck"]Franchise tagging period start tomorrow.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...er-new-rules/1

    Turns out it only costs $5.4 mil to tag a Tight End... lol

    With these kind of price tags, expect more teams to excerise the franchise tag this year unless they have no one worth tagging.[/quote]

    It does help with CAP space but also irks the players involved who feel they should be able to go to the highest bidder.
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    [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="NYGRealityCheck"]Franchise tagging period start tomorrow.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...er-new-rules/1

    Turns out it only costs $5.4 mil to tag a Tight End... lol

    With these kind of price tags, expect more teams to excerise the franchise tag this year unless they have no one worth tagging.[/quote]

    It does help with CAP space but also irks the players involved who feel they should be able to go to the highest bidder.
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    That's just one of the tag's effects... Teams get one more year with the player to decide on offering the player a huge contract or finding other options through next year's FA or draft. Of course, no player really likes to be franchise-tagged as suppose to being able to test the FA market for money reasons. However, owners have the upper-hand or complete control here in this situation.

    Financially, who wouldn't want to tag J. Finley to make him play for $5.4 mil for one season or Drew Brees for $14.4 mil for one season? Although Brees is more likely of those two to get a big contract offer, that just sounds like a steal.

    For the Giants, there's really no one to tag, not even Weatherford. (Franchise-tag for kicker/punter will probably be $2.5-3 mil.) I'm guessing the Giants will offer him $1 mil to $1.5 mil for next year, within the range of Tynes' 2012 salary.

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    Packers indeed have taken Finley off the FA market.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...year-contract/

    Based on the contract,
    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay...ichael-finley/

    Finley would be paid slightly more than the TE franchise tag price for 2012. Then, he gets a much bigger payday for 2013. This is your typical back-loaded contract, 2-year style.

    However, his salary is not fully guaranteed as it would have with the tag salary. So if he doesn't meet the expectations of the Packers and gets cut before his contract is fulfilled, the Packers aren't not financially bound by a huge signing bonus and take no loss on their investment to Finley (basically start with a clean slate).

    This is the contract situation that a GM wants to have with any player, back-loaded with little to no guaranteed money.

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    Two major updates for two well-known players.

    The Steelers have announced that they will release their long-time major WR Hines Ward.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

    Upon his release, he'll be a free agent WR. Of course, barring possible retirement, although he has stated he is "looking forward to playing in the NFL, again, this upcoming season."

    Next...

    Saints may be putting the franchise tag on Elite QB Brees, which would be making him play for only $14.4 million for 2012. What a deal...for the Saints. Way to reward the record-setting QB.

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/29/sain...headline_stack

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    [quote user="NYGRealityCheck"]Two major updates for two well-known players.

    The Steelers have announced that they will release their long-time major WR Hines Ward.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

    Upon his release, he'll be a free agent WR. Of course, barring possible retirement, although he has stated he is "looking forward to playing in the NFL, again, this upcoming season."

    Next...

    Saints may be putting the franchise tag on Elite QB Brees, which would be making him play for <font color="#0000FF">only $14.4 million</font> for 2012. What a deal...for the Saints. Way to reward the record-setting QB.

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/29/sain...headline_stack[/quote]

    Where have we gone wrong? [8-)]
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    Re: PFF - RANKING 2012 FREE AGENTS

    [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="NYGRealityCheck"]Two major updates for two well-known players.

    The Steelers have announced that they will release their long-time major WR Hines Ward.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

    Upon his release, he'll be a free agent WR. Of course, barring possible retirement, although he has stated he is "looking forward to playing in the NFL, again, this upcoming season."

    Next...

    Saints may be putting the franchise tag on Elite QB Brees, which would be making him play for <font color="#0000FF">only $14.4 million</font> for 2012. What a deal...for the Saints. Way to reward the record-setting QB.

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/29/sain...headline_stack[/quote]

    Where have we gone wrong?* [8-)]
    [/quote]

    I think i would blame the expected lack of substantial increase to the teams' salary cap. If the Saints had the salary cap room to give him a bigger contract, I think he'd get one. Saints still have to deal with Marques Colston and Robert Meachem turning into UFAs if they choose to re-sign them. That's like having a situation where Nicks and Manningham are FAs at the same time.

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    As the deadline for franchise tags is approaching, some teams have started to play their hand.

    The Eagles have indeed placed the franchise-tag on speedy WR DeSean Jackson. The franchise tag price for WRs is $9.4 million for 2012 all guaranteed.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

    This will almost assure at least a move (restructure, trade, cut, or salary cut) on one of the top 4 Eagle's players in terms of cap-hits for 2012. The top 5 salary of Eagles players (DJax included now) for 2012 will hog up a whopping $53.35 million of team cap space. There is speculation toward Asante Samuels being traded.


    The Raiders have used their franchise tag on SS Tyvon Branch (exclusive rights)

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/01/raid...headline_stack


    On another note, front-flipping WR Jerome Simpson is trying to front-flip out of the free agency maket. He has plead guilty to drug-related felony charges several days before the March 13 start date. The possible jail time won't hurt his free agency as much the suspension time to be handed out by the NFL on top of that.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/C...?ocid=ansfox11

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    The franchise tags just keep coming as the deadline is approaching....

    You can also track them here.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

    Redskins have tagged TE Fred Davis.
    Ravens have tagged RB Ray Rice.
    49ers have tagged Safety Dashon Goldson.
    Cardinals have tagged DE Calais Campbell.
    Falcons have tagged CB Brent Grimes.
    Bengals have tagged K Mike Nugent.
    Browns have tagged K Phil Dawson.
    Bears have tagged RB Matt Forte.

    Saints have tagged QB Drew Brees (exclusive rights). http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ag-on-qb-brees

    His salary will be the average of the top 5 QBs in league for 2012. He will now hoping for a long-term deal, no restructuring of the top 5 paid QBs for 2012, or Peyton Manning does not retire. His franchise tag price for now is sitting at $15.24 mil, which may be subject to change based largely in part to what happens with Peyton Manning (No.1 QB cap-hit salary for 2012). None of the other 2012 free agent QBs is expected to make it into the top 5 salary range (unless Packers unlikely tag Flynn), so that's non-factor in the formula.

    "An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams." -Wiki. This was carried over into the new CBA.

    120 percent of his previous salary is $14.03 mil. The average salary of the top 5 QBs will almost certaintly (99.9%) be higher unless all top 5 QBs restucture their contracts. Worst case scenario for Brees is Peyton Manning retiring. Without Peyton's salary in the formula, the average salaries of the top 5 QBs will be $14.64 mil, slightly higher than the non-exclusive tag.


    Awaiting Texans and Patriots to apply their tags...

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