[quote user="critters"][quote user="Raptor22"]Reaching or stealing is pretty subjective. Mel Kiper might have a guy rated around 90 overall, but Reese and the Giants scouting department might have the same guy rated as 35 over-all on their big board.
So, come pick 64, it would look like a big reach going by Kiper's board, but it would be a tremendous value going by JR's board.
Look at JPP, for example. He was 6 overall on the Giants' board, but considerably lower than that on a lot of other boards. Given that and the Giants' perceived depth at that position, it looked like a BAD pick. How's it look now? I don't think there are 5 guys from that draft who have played better.
Jaquain Williams is another example. NOBODY knew who he was (IIRC, the Bears are the only other team that even LOOKED at him), and that pick was pretty much universally criticized... but looking back, he played as well as any rookie LB not named Von Miller, regardless of draft position. I'd say that's tremendous value.
My point being, the Giants' scouting department sets its big board, and JR sticks to that, and picks the highest rated player remaining. They don't get enamored by names or positions the same way fans do. The genius in JR's drafting is in the scouting department's evaluation and setting up their big board, and taking the best talent available. They let other teams reach and let the draft come to them.
This is 100% correct. I think the Giants are one of the one best teams when it comes to establishing draft value and getting the best picks.
Ok, so then why say they would be reaching? If you believe that is how they draft then they are not reaching. If Reese picks a guy it's because that is who he wants. Don't look at all the "experts" boards and what they say during the draft. Reese has 2 rings doing what he does. If he picks a guy, it is not reaching.