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    BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    "What would Phil
    Simms
    have been without the New York
    Giants
    ? What would the New York
    Giants
    have been without Phil
    Simms
    ? It's a scenario that was much closer to reality than many people realize.



    While appearing at the Long Island Association’s 2012 annual luncheon in
    Westbury, New York
    last Wednesday, former quarterback Phil
    Simms
    detailed a rough start in the relationship between he and then-head
    coach Bill
    Parcells
    .





    "I always thought [my full name] was Effing Simms," he recalled. "I used to
    have to check my birth certificate and make sure my name started with a ‘P’ and
    not and ‘F.’ And, if I did well, it was just ‘Hey, boy’ or something like
    that.”




    After being benched early in his career, he had had enough. Simms demanded a
    trade from New York; a
    trade request Parcells was all to happy to grant.





    “People would tell me, ‘Hey, you hung in there.’ I was like, ‘What else was I
    going to do?’ Before that, I told Parcells, ‘Trade me now!’ He tried, but the
    organization wouldn’t let him," Simms said.




    With the storybook already closed, we know how that fairytale ended. Simms
    wasn't traded and he spent the entire duration of his 14-year NFL career with
    Big Blue. He'd eventually become the Giants' all-time leading passer, and would
    retire with two Super Bowl championships and one Super Bowl MVP award.




    It's one of the best trades that never happened."



    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    If the organization didn't let him then it wasn't close was it lol
    "...two minute drill at the end of each quarter, Ya'know with the wind like this blowing mooch and marshall into the ocean...If that's behind me I think were getting 3 from 70 so holla at your boy. IF YOU DON"T PICK ME THAT'S A JOKE RIGHT?" - Justin Tucker, Ravens kicker

    Complain?, ain't Nobody got time for dat!

    GO GIANTS!

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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    We could of grabbed Marino in 1983.

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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    I didn't read the article, but I remember that Parcells wanted to stick with Brunner. Thank God that didn't work out.

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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER



    [quote user="RoanokeFan"]Simms demanded a trade from New York; a trade request Parcells was all to happy to grant[/quote]




    [quote user="JJC7301"]Parcells wanted to stick with Brunner[/quote]




    Maybe now we know why he didn't get voted into the hall...lol


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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    I've heard Phil talk about that in an interview before, I think it was in the 86 edition of Americas game. It happened at the start of Parcell's first year as head coach. He sat Phil down and basically just told him Scott Brunner was the starting QB, and Phil asked for a trade. Parcells tried to grant his request but it never happened. After the team STUNK that year and Parcells almost got fired he decided to shake things up, cut half the team and brought in the first wave of "Parcells" guys which lead to a playoff berth in 1984. Phil came back that year and threw for 4,000 yards. You have to understand from 1979-1982 Simms was injured all the time. He couldn't be counted on. Nobody could have known he was going to be an ironman from 1984 until he broke his foot in 1990.

    It sure did drive Jeff Hostetler nuts lol.

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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    Does anybody know what teams the Giants were talking to in regards to trading Simms? What players/picks would we have gotten?

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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    There were not any teams. George Young wouldn't trade him. In those days George Young had final say in all football decisions.

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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    [quote user="davecrazy"]We could of grabbed Marino in 1983.
    [/quote]

    We could have drafted him regardless. We drafted Terry Kinard instead. [:P]
    We passed up Darrell Green too.

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    Re: BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER

    Thank goodness the organization would not let him.

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